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What time?
I will actually be up in London anyway tomorrow, so it is a possibility. What time are things expected to kick off? Is there a website with details on?
Laziness
http://www.tickandbash.com/You're right. I accept admonishment for my laziness. Thanks for posting the link anyway.Come on, Step, you could have found that!
Read out the first draft of your blog
I will be there about 6ish. Will try it out.
That will get the event started with a bang.
Good
To see everyone there tonight.
Peter I hope you didn't scare too many CB staff.
FT - are you home yet? Hopefully no wrong turns.
Looking forward to the next one.
return journey
It was good to meet you and others KA.
Thanks, return journey was easier due to less traffic and I did not get lost.
I will try and attend other Clear Books Tick and Bash events.
Good to see you all
and especially to meet FT at long last.
KA, let me know when you start the archaeological digs, I and the dog can help!
Really?
Highlight of the evening was seeing Andy Partridge and JCresswellTax starting a conga line on Blackfriars Bridge.
Then I was more hammered last night than I imagined.
Sorry I couldn't attend
Got home and my dog had diarrhea so had to stay and look after him :(
Next time
Disappointingly I wasn't able to make it down, man-flu here and we all know how bad that can be!
Sounds like it was a good evening and a good turn-out of first-time attendees.
Well done CB for organising/funding.
Thanks Paul. It was good to meet you. You do not look like an accountant. I was surprised.
It was good to catch up Peter Saxton, Jason and others who I managed to speak to.
I would have loved to meet those who could not make it.
Good to see you all again, shame I had to shoot off early.
Great to meet the Legend that is FirstTab.
Out of interest, do any
Out of interest, do any women attend?
Would love to come but don't want to be the only woman there!
Yes
Tara from Clear Books was there.
June Wong was there.
I've invited a few women along in the past. I will invite at least one to the next event.
What's wrong with being the only woman?
Soccer ?
It's football for me.
Soccer ? There are lots of football games. "Football" means different things in different places.
Hijacked
Ah - soccer has hijacked the term "football" and rugby union has hijacked "rugby".
Peter is right
Since the first written set of rules for association football 'running with the ball in hand' has not been allowed. Of course we are only going back as far as the 1860s on this. There was more handling in the game played by the ancient Greeks and perhaps by the modern Greeks too.
Different times
Of course we are only going back as far as the 1860s on this.
That's so. Prior to that - and indeed, for some time afterwards - captains agreed the rules at the coin toss. There were literally dozens of rule sets around and most games were played not between clubs but between players of the same club.
I don't disagree.
I think you were proposing that what Peter referred to as 'football' might be a different game to the one he meant. I would say that for the last 150 years, since the rules of association football were written down, that has not been the case. I have never heard of 'soccer' so can not comment on that. Is it like boxing?
Edit - of course this is all only confirming Arabita's worst fears.
Innocence
Bless your innocence, Andy - never heard of soccer ? What happened to your social history education ?
I'm merely pointing out that there was more than one association back in the 1860s. The three most prominent were in London, Sheffield and Glasgow, though there were many clubs not affiliated to any Association. The laws were far from universal.
Actually
You said 'football means different things in different places'. Did you mean 'football used to mean . . .' because only the few with a heightened sense of history would think that 'football' meant 'rugby' (and only the few with no sense of history at all would refer to football as 'soccer')
With profuse apologies to Arabita.
Today
You said 'football means different things in different places'. Did you mean 'football used to mean . . .'
No. Football still doesn't mean soccer in Melbourne, Killarney or New York.
Tick and Bash is not AccountingWeb
Hmmm... yes..... My worst fear!
I think you are confusing Tick and Bash with AccountingWeb.
Rugby Football
The game of rugby originated on the Close at Rugby School in 1823 when William Webb Ellis "with a fine disregard for the rules of football as played in his time first took the ball in his arms and ran with it", as it says on the plaque in the wall on the north side of the playing field. The rules of the game were first set out in writing by the school prefects in 1845.
If you are a schoolboy at Rugby with a match in the afternoon against another school, it makes no sense to say "I am going to play Rugby", so the game of rugby is referred to as football at Rugby School.
This is one example of why public schools should be abolished.
Just what cosy relationship did William Webb Ellis have with the headmaster of Rugby School when he picked the ball up and ran with it and was lauded with creating an entirely new game?
If I'd have picked the ball up and ran with it during a game of soccer at the school I went to I'd have got the whack from Mr. Jenkins.
Don't worry
This is one example of why public schools should be abolished.
Just what cosy relationship did William Webb Ellis have with the headmaster of Rugby School when he picked the ball up and ran with it and was lauded with creating an entirely new game?
If I'd have picked the ball up and ran with it during a game of soccer at the school I went to I'd have got the whack from Mr. Jenkins.
Don't worry - even the RFU don't believe this piece of nonsense, which didn't appear until the 1870s, some fifty years after the event.
Even if it were true, Webb Ellis's "innovation" was not that he handled the ball but that he ran with it. Having made a "fair catch", what he should have done was to retire as far as he wished before taking a free kick, the opposition being prohibited from advancing beyond the point at which the ball was caught.
But then again - the rules were made by the boys and were revised on a game to game basis.
Calvinball
Sounds like a much better candidate for the "World's Greatest Game" appellation to me. But then again - the rules were made by the boys and were revised on a game to game basis.