Fantasy Budget: Simply is best
Having harboured dreams of being a politician for years, Giles Mooney is ready to reveal his ideas to simplify the tax system while boosting the Treasury’s coffers.
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Lots of misconceived/bad ideas here. "...and would make the buy-to-let market less attractive, freeing up properties for owner occupiers to get on the ladder."
That was the mistake Gideon has made already (and BTLs are already thereby significantly less attractive) and now private rents are at record highs (due to massively reduced supply of available private rental properties since 2016). See:
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/buytolet/article-12743015/More-landl...
BTL investors could just switch to investing in (residential letting) property companies in ISAs etc. It also overlooks that indexation was abolished re lower CGT rates.
Here's some better ideas: https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/potential-fuel-duty-increase
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/wow-a-sensible-labour-party-...
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/spring-budget-2023
"Fuel duty – Chancellor has spent £10bn over 3 years on extending the fuel rate cut and (again) not indexing the duty. This raises some questions. If the government is determined never to raise fuel duty, why does it budget on the assumption that it will? And what will replace that assumed contribution to ‘balancing the books’ when we are all driving electric cars?"
Bravo!! Some great ideas there Giles.
I particularly like the high thresholds for all taxes, and the alignement with the VAT threshold. But would all these thresholds be indexed linked?
The VAT threshold of £50,000 would just lower the current cliff-edge problem where businesses stop trading (or stop declaring income) at £84,900, and it may be more difficult to avoid - for honest traders.
You didn't mention the HICBC. That would be first on my bonfire of tax messures.
Wow! That's a great budget - if only, if only. I agree with almost all of it. My only doubt surrounds the £50k exemption for companies for CT. That feels generous to me and runs counter to most of your other measures. Nonetheless, brilliantly radical and above all, on the face of it, very fair (although I can think of a few who will cry foul - oh look one of them already has!)
But if you read the links in my above comment they are all the relevant facts that justify my comments. The OP does not support his comments with any such justifying facts as far as I can see and indeed glosses over key facts such as the abolition of CGT indexation relief as I stated above. (You'll recall LT/KK did such a "simple" (mini) Budget without key supporting facts/analysis and look what happened to them.)
"Demand for rental properties is currently running at 27% above the 5-year average, according to Zoopla. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) supports this, with their October 2023 UK Residential Market Survey showing an increase in tenant demand in the three months to October.
This comes alongside a continued fall in landlord instructions across the UK. This signifies that this high demand remains unmet by the dwindling supply and increasing prices across the rental market. Based on these conditions the RICS report predicted a further rental increase of around 4.0% on average across the UK over the next 12 months."
https://awh.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/AWH-UK-Property-Market-Comm...
Very good, Chancellor Mooney. I particularly like the idea of matching the personal allowance to the living wage.
As far as I am concerned state spending as well as taxes need to be reduced NOT increased.
The economy needs to grow and investment needs to be encouraged.
Governments have proved themselves not to be wise spenders of your money so the less they have the better.
There has always been a tendency that the more money you give to government the more they waste it.
Small state low taxes in my view, so whilst I agree the system needs simplification the overall burden needs to come down.
I am always astounded and disappointed with how much tax we pay in this country and how little we get in public services for it.
Yes, per para 27 here it cost just 15% of GDP in taxes to run the whole British Empire before WWI and now it's c40% to run just this country's lamentable public services.
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2023/1332.html
These left wingers don't like to talk about how to make public services more efficient do they* and just bang on (à la DN/RM) about increasing tax on the rich (in which class they always include BTL landlords) who already pay more than their fair share of UK tax**, which results in lower growth as we are seeing now (due to incentives all being thereby wrong)?
* Just look at MTDfIT, which is the exact opposite of efficient or this other recent example: https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/tax/personal-tax/hmrc-fails-in-pursuit-o... .
**For example, a rich foreigner now typically pays SDLT of c17% when buying a £20m Mayfair dwelling. That's virtually the 20% VAT rate and then there's 40% IHT when he snuffs it. That's more tax than the entire inhabitants of most small UK towns (outside SE England at least) pay each year in income tax.
The Tables here make interesting reading: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2023...
I'm not sure that running the British Empire is a reasonable comparison; after all, we were stealing natural resources from multiple countries whilst exploiting their human resources. No doubt that kept our costs right down.
Furthermore, there was no NHS, state pension was for the tiny number of over-70s and kids left school at 14. Not a UK that I'd want to live in.
Vat threshold £200K unless we can abolish it altogether. We’ve just waited 371 days for a registration. HMRC can’t cope now so £50K would probably break them. Then again, maybe you’re on to something…?
I start from a position of deep scepticism of the ability of the state to spend well. We see repeated failures to implement digital processes, enormous waste in procurement (eg Min of Defence) and a bloated bureaucracy with far too little output form those STILL "working" from home.
We first need to decide the level of spend and then how to raise that in taxes.
Government interference in business results in little benefit except for those playing the rules to gain. How many extra films have been made as a result of film credits, compared to cost to us all from dodgy schemes. How much real new R&D has been funded compared to costs for dodgy claims.
We need to simplify the tax system to reduce scope for abuse and dodging tax.
I would merge income tax and NI, including employer NI, and have following rates.
Current zero band increase to about £15k
Current 20% band (currently 20% tax, 12 % employee 13.8 employer- total 45.8%) set at 45%
Current 40% band (currently 40% tax, 2 % employee 13.8 employer - Total 55.8) set at 55%
Current 45% band (currently 45% tax, 2 % employee 13.8 employer - total 60.8) set at 60%
Wages rates and salaries would need to be adjusted to account for shift in take from employers to employees.
Dividends and interest income would be taxed at the same rates, with an allowance or £1,000 and £500 respectively to save having to report relatively small amounts.
The VAT threshold should be reduced to £50,000.
MTD (as curently planned) should be binned. It makes sense to ask businesses to report more frequently, and sooner, but it should only apply using the same threhold as VAT registration and could be an extension of the existing VAT report process. Any trader in VAT system already reports VAT turnover. It would not be hard to amend the VAT report to include perhaps Turnover, expenses and net profit.
Corporation tax at 20% for first £100,000 of profits then 22% on the balance.
The 5th on the month would be replaced by calander month ends for all taxes. No more 5th April for PAYE, CIS etc. Tax year to 31st March.
Self-assessment Tax returns would be due by 30th September and payable by 30th November.
Most Corporation Tax Returns would be due six months after their company year end and tax payable after seven months. Large companies four months and six months.
HMRC would have resources to investigate businesses and individuals not paying the taxes due. At present it seems very few compliance visits are happening.
HMRC systems need an overhaul and change of direction. It is not the job of HMRC to direct businesses to adopt digital processes. Any taxpayer who wants to, already uses such systems, the rest would not benefit from such a change.
Simplify benefit in kind rules. If an employer provides something to an employee it is taxable on the value of the benefit, that being cost in most cases. It could be cost less what the company would have had to pay in expenses to the employee if they had to provide it to do their job. eg if company provide a car but would have had top pay employee for mileage if using their own car.
Raise inheritance tax threshold to exclude more people from worrying about this tax.
Remove the Capital Gains tax relief on gains on private residence sales. These gains are not the result of any effort of skill by the taxpayer. Tax capital gains at same rate as other types of income to stop people disguising trading income as capital gains.
Stick to delivering your ATT style webinars, Giles. No, seriously, do - they are fun and take me right back to ATT school.
"I’ll have my share of whatever you’ve left when you die."
Says it all really.
How much do you think "your share" of someone else's lifetime's work is? And why?
I think Giles has overlooked that company dividends are paid out of taxed profits, so all dividend taxation is double taxation. With dividend tax rates as high as Giles suggests, there would not be much point in many businesses incorporating.