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Why HMRC should take lessons from the Scouts

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“Be prepared” is the motto of the Scouting movement. If HMRC took this homily to heart perhaps it could avoid some of the delays and reformulations we see in key tax initiatives.

22nd Sep 2022
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Benjamin Franklin is credited as saying: “By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail”. This has been reheated many times as a guiding principle in numerous management textbooks, but it is still relevant today.

Another version of the same philosophy is the British Army adage: “Proper preparation and planning prevents poor performance”.

Please plan properly

In recent years a number of changes to UK administration have been introduced in a hurry without sufficient preparation. This has led to problems which could have been foreseen if only the planning had been more detailed, and the ‘what if’ thinking a bit more wide-ranging.

Paying CGT upfront

In 2013 or so I had a brief conversation with a very senior tax adviser about an idea which was being explored in the Treasury: to get property sellers to pay the CGT due within 30 days. I asked how the tax would be collected – would the conveyancing solicitors administer it as they did for SDLT? He thought not, as calculating the CGT would be too complicated for solicitors to deal with.

Which is just the point. Capital gains tax is complicated, particularly when combined with the byzantine reliefs and exemptions that can apply on the disposal of a residential property.

However, just a few years later from 6 April 2015 the Non-Resident CGT return came into being, which required the disposal of a UK property to be reported and any CGT to be paid within 30 days of the completion date. This caught out numerous non-residents who had no idea they were required to submit a separate CGT return so early, so they incurred late filing penalties of up to £1,600. Some of those penalties were challenged at tax tribunal, with varying results. Rachel McGreevy had her penalties cancelled (TC6109), but the Heskeths had their penalties upheld (TC0622).

Learn from mistakes

You would think that HMRC would have learnt the lessons from the introduction of the NRCGT return, when the 30-day reporting regime was expanded to cover gains from all UK residential properties from 6 April 2020. The learning points were clear:

  • Communicate the changes to all professionals involved in the transaction well ahead of the go-live date. In this case a huge education exercise to cover estate agents, conveyancing solicitors and accountants was needed but wasn’t carried out.
  • Send targeted letters to individuals who have sold properties warning them of their filing obligations. HMRC started to do this in August 2022 as a limited pilot project.
  • Provide clear guidance on all the aspects of the CGT computation, written for the taxpayer and accessible in one place.
  • Allow tax advisers to complete the return on behalf of their clients, with a workable agent authorisation process. It is particularly important to get this right where the client lives abroad.
  • Minimise rather than duplicate the number of interactions the taxpayer has to make with HMRC.
  • Make it easy for the taxpayer to reclaim an overpayment of CGT paid, or pay any extra tax due.

MTD ITSA

In many ways, RTI is the model for MTD ITSA, not MTD for VAT.

The requirements for VAT reporting hardly changed under the MTD regime. But under RTI the frequency of payroll reporting in most cases moved from annual to monthly or quarterly, and for MTD ITSA the reporting will increase at least four-fold.

The six learning points from CGT reporting listed above apply equally to MTD ITSA, but there are some additional key learnings to be taken from RTI:

  • Have a soft landing for late filing penalties, including a permanent three-day grace period.
  • Ensure the tax adviser has access to exactly the same data as the client and HMRC call-handlers can see.
  • Introduce the new regime with a lead-in period of several years.
  • Test the entire process over several years before making it compulsory for all.
  • Encourage taxpayers to sign-up early with monetary incentives.

Sadly, it is not clear that these points are included in the MTD ITSA plan.

Scouting for accountants

AccountingWEB readers were encouraged by the fact that Andrew Griffith, the new Financial Secretary to the Treasury, is a chartered accountant. But I would be more reassured if his biography mentioned that he had been a Boy Scout.

The Financial Secretary to the Treasury traditionally has responsibility for HMRC, so the decision to proceed with MTD ITSA, or delay it, will be in Griffith’s in-tray. It was Mel Stride who made one of the first announcements to delay MTD VAT and MTD ITSA when he was appointed to that role back in July 2017.

If Griffith was a Scout, I hope he took the ‘Be Prepared’ motto to heart and that he will review the preparedness of HMRC, and the small business community, for the implementation of MTD ITSA without delay.

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By JustAnotherUser
22nd Sep 2022 12:25

thank you for using names

Andrew Griffith, the new Financial Secretary to the Treasury

"The Financial Secretary to the Treasury traditionally has responsibility for HMRC, so the decision to proceed with MTD ITSA, or delay it, will be in Griffith’s in-tray."

Would love the title to be

"Why Andrew Griffith and HMRC should take lessons from the Scouts"

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By Tornado
22nd Sep 2022 13:08

"In many ways, RTI is the model for MTD ITSA, not MTD for VAT"

My recollection of the plans for RTI is that all employers, pension providers, etc, would return details of all employees each week or month to HMRC and pay the Gross amounts due directly to HMRC. HMRC would then collate all the income for each person for that period, including pensions, benefits, etc and then work out the amount of tax and other deductions due and then pay a single net amount to everyone directly to their bank. I think one of the main arguments for this was that Universal Credit could be worked out, where payable, based on actual income. Apparently this would work as it was all in Real Time.

The comparison of MTD for ITSA with RTi could not be more appropriate.

Although the original plans for RTI seemed ideal and achievable in the befuddled minds of the architects, any fool could find a thousand reasons why it would not, (and never will) work. MTD for ITSA is exactly the same ............ an impossible dream that will never work for a thousand reasons, many of which have been clearly highlighted on AWEB.

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By kevinringer
27th Sep 2022 10:26

Tornado, you remember correctly. In a way, it is a pity HMRC did not proceed because the mega-car-crash would have silenced HMRC for decades and MTD would never have seen the light of day.

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By Paul Crowley
22nd Sep 2022 18:26

Very much appreciated
You are Aweb's star, shining bright.

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By kaff
22nd Sep 2022 20:10

“The Financial Secretary to the Treasury traditionally has responsibility for HMRC”. Apparently, traditions exist to be broken.

https://www.gov.uk/government/people/richard-fuller

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By Hugo Fair
23rd Sep 2022 00:11

"In many ways, RTI is the model for MTD ITSA" ... well it's a better comparator than MTD VAT certainly, but the two central differences are why RTI (sort of) worked and MTD ITSA won't:

* RTI is simply reporting outputs from processes that most companies (maybe not OMBs) were already carrying-out (in order to pay employees weekly/monthly and then HMRC once per month).
So there were no fundamental changes to data collection or key outputs (payslips/BACS/etc).

* RTI calcs are mostly PAYE calcs, which use use rolling YTD values at a point in time - a system that has been unchanged for decades (and which is still inviolate in HMRC's systems).
So there was no sudden introduction of new incomplete/estimated figures to report or the concept of deferring/accruing figures to different periods or re-allocating of processed figures to a different category etc.

I endorse your underlying point (essentially 'stop / think / discuss / plan /review') but there also needs to be the recognition that MTD ITSA is going to be completely new in almost aspect to most taxpayers - in a way that RTI or indeed SA and other innovations weren't really.
[As @Tornado alludes the hope of introducing Centralised Deductions (which actually pre-dated RTI) would have been as radically different - and is a warning not to take too big a giant step].

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By Jo Nokes
23rd Sep 2022 09:11

Hugo, are we really confident that MTD won’t work? At what point do you think HMRC will admit that it can’t get it to work. There do seem to be quite a few problems that have yet to be solved but the software houses and this site continue to plug webinars etc that one might assume have all the necessary answers

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By Hugo Fair
23rd Sep 2022 14:09

That rather depends on what you (or at least HMRC) mean by the word 'work'.

Will it achieve the publicised objectives/benefits? Not a hope in hell.
Will there be open rebellion (mass refusal to comply)? Probably not.
Will it assist the move to an (unannounced) grander scheme? Possibly (v slowly).
Will it go ahead and will people be fined for non-compliance? Almost certainly.
Will it slowly fall into disrepute (as an administrative waste of time that is bit-by-bit circumvented by later & leaner solutions)? Hopefully.

The only certainties are that more millions (billions?) will be wasted in pursuit of the impossible & unnecessary - and that the decision-makers have invested their own careers and won't back down.

[I can assure you absolutely no-one has "all the necessary answers" right now!]

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By cmiskin
23rd Sep 2022 12:40

Richard Fuller Economic Secretary to the Treasury is taking responsibility for HMRC, change of roles. Not Andrew Griffith FST.

Apologies, already commented on above

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By Mr J Andrews
23rd Sep 2022 13:57

Learn from mistakes ? I doubt it.
Andrew Griffith may have been a boy scout. If so and hopefully for his sake , he earned his Survival Skills badge as far as MTD is concerned.
It's not just the Profession and Joe Public who are facing utter chaos , but also dwindling HMRC staff - or equally their inadequate administration - expected to cope with a useless idea.
Griffith should put the Revenue in order by using resources to tackle the rampant black economy and evasion which is evident countrywide.
Another British Army adage Griffith may take note of, as far as the remaining Revenue front line is concerned, are the lines from a certain Tennyson poem:
Theirs not to make reply
Theirs not to reason why
Theirs but to do and die.

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By kevinringer
27th Sep 2022 10:30

"In many ways, RTI is the model for MTD ITSA, not MTD for VAT."

But not in the the most important way: digitisation. We had 100% digitised our payroll about 20 years ago (when HMRC actually paid businesses an incentive of £825 to digitise). RTI required us to report each pay period in advance rather than annually in arrears. But the data was already there in the software. In contrast MTD ITSA requires digitisation of transactions and digital links which are not currently required at present. It is this digitisation of transactions that I feel is the real problem of MTD ITSA.

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