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Quick highway code question - speed limits - (warning, a bit geeky)

24th Aug 2015
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Like a lot of small firms, we run a small fleet of vans. 5 'Transit' sized Vauxhall Vivaro, and 1 'car' sized Peugeot Partner.

Now, I am a bit geeky with vehicles (my office calendar is vintage commercial vehicles), but even I was a bit caught out by this.

One of our drivers was 'caught' travelling at just over 70 on a dual carriageway, when the speed limit for vans is 60. (I knew this one)

This got me looking at the appropriate pages on .Gov - I didn't realise that similar vans have a limit of only 50 on an A road.

I assumed the Peugeot Partner was what is known as a 'car derived van' and hence the normal car speed limits applied. Not as simple as I thought. There are three different versions of this van. All look the same from the outside (ie square box rear body), but have different payloads.

If the total weight when laden is over 2000kg then the van speed limits apply, under that and car limits apply.

I needed to consult the registration document to discover ours has the heavier payload, and hence van speed limits. 

That was what we learned in our office today.

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By Alan Davies
25th Aug 2015 09:16

It can be confusing

My wife drives a VW transporter shuttle (we have 4 kids!), because it is taxed as a private vehicle the car speed limits apply (even though its a van derived car - a definition that doesn't really exist). 

If it where the Kombi version of the transporter it is possible to tax these either as private or as commercial vehicles - so the private vehicles have the car limits and the commercial ones don't yet the only difference in vehicle is based the first owner decided the tax basis should be.  It's a little crazy.  It could lead to some strange conversations with clients "so if you buy this vehicle you'll need to consider BIK's and speed limits".

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By Alan Davies
26th Aug 2015 09:23

Continuing the geekiness

Despite recognising there is probably only tom123 and myself who are interested...

This was brought to my attention today:

http://www.whatvan.co.uk/analysis-and-comment/2015/tax-warning-for-crew-van-operators

and its probably of interest to all those in practice.  I really do dislike when treatment for different taxes is deliberately taken on a divergent route - I strongly believe that where ever possible HMRC should be driving for consistency to make everyones life easier.  Hopefully this will get knocked back at tribunal and a more sensible and consistent treatment will emerge.  

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