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No Accounting for Taste ep152: Dan Neidle talks Property118, Autumn Statement and tax complexity

Dan Neidle joins the AccountingWEB team on the podcast this week (click play below) to discuss his recent investigation into Property118, the Autumn Statement and tax complexity. 

13th Nov 2023
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Dan is the founder of Tax Policy Associates, a not-for-profit company, that aims to improve tax and legal policy and public understanding of tax. Before his work with Tax Policy Associates, Dan spent almost 25 years as a tax lawyer. 

He joins the AccountingWEB airwaves to discuss his investigation into Property118, which he called at one point “the worst tax avoidance scheme ever”. 

And with the Autumn Statement around the corner, Dan gives his thoughts on some of the runners and riders rumoured for the big fiscal event. 

He also imagines if he was Chancellor for the day and reveals what he would announce if he was given the keys to Number 11. 

Discussion inevitably turns to tax complications and whether it is a case that the complications are inevitable (tax is complicated!) or that some of the complications are just unnecessary?

Hosted by Richard Hattersley and Tom Herbert, the No Accounting for Taste podcast takes on some of the big stories from across the accounting profession. You can read more about the stories discussed in this podcast on AccountingWEB.co.uk. 

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By Justin Bryant
13th Nov 2023 09:41

"which he called at one point “the worst tax avoidance scheme ever”."

That's a bit rich for someone whose old firm (where he was Head of Tax) did the biggest failed SDLT avoidance scheme ever.

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2016-0137.html

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By johnjenkins
13th Nov 2023 10:08

Being "head of tax" doesn't mean you have control over what happens.
Look at Jim Harra. He knows IR35 and MTD QU doesn't work yet he is powerless to do anything about it.

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By Justin Bryant
13th Nov 2023 10:10

But I did not say that did I? I just said it's "a bit rich", which is putting things mildly at most*.

Also, I don't think many here would agree with your JH comments. Even if you were right, he could publicly resign in protest etc. couldn't he?

*One could say the same for this similar example: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2001/jan/14/childcare.observercashsection

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By johnjenkins
13th Nov 2023 10:21

Justin my post was very much tongue in cheek. I've just had my third coffee and am buzzing.

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By Justin Bryant
13th Nov 2023 10:23

Ah. I confess you got me there.

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By ABD
23rd Nov 2023 13:47

What an allegation Justin, Project Blue maintained that there was no avoidance scheme and was purely coincidental!

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By Rebecca Cave
14th Nov 2023 06:59

Excellent podcast! Well worth your time listening to this.

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By johnjenkins
14th Nov 2023 09:29

I had a client who went over to them because of how much tax could be saved. He spoke to me last week and wants to come back. Sometimes B....... baffles brains.

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