Accountancy bodies told to step up AML supervision
While professional bodies have made improvements in anti-money laundering supervision, particularly around enforcement action with the total sum of fines doubling, the supervisor of supervisors has said more action is needed for consistent effectiveness.
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Hmm, so OPBAS measures "progress in enforcement action" as a direct correlation with fines levied?
Is there any chance that the initial objectives have been forgotten (subsumed in check-lists & tape)?
Wonder how they view HMRC's role as a supervisory body? In all my years registered with them my only contact was filling in the renewal form once a year and paying their fee.
OPBAS only covers the professional bodies which act as supervisors of accountants / tax advisers / lawyers. It doesn't cover HMRC's similar role.
I have a view on whether it ought to cover that - but the fact is, it doesn't!
David
David, glad you popped up, the other day I stumbled upon a piece of fiction (short stories) that has as its protagonist a forensic accountant. (I was actually looking on kindle for "The Alchemist" as I wanted to read it again.)
Ben Jonson and a Case of Fraudulent Conversion
Geoffrey Benson
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45485963-ben-jonson-and-a-case-of-fr...
No observation on quality etc as have not read.
I share the sentiments of the comments here: https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/aml-watchdog-demands-more-ambition-fro...
If if something is not working, clearly the best thing to do is do more of it and punitively penalise those who don't do it well enough for your satisfaction.
Don't consider if the thing you are doing actually solves the problem you have, or indeed is just very expensive window dressing to pretend it is doing something useful. Indeed you might be out of a job......
I think I might make it in the rarified world of regulating regulators now I get how to do it.
Rulebook for Regulating Regulators:
1. What's in it for me;
2. What's in it for my mates;
3. What's in it for me (I know that's rule 1 but you can't have too much of a good thing)!
Maybe they should poke their nose into the Dept where we all send the SARs, it might actually make a difference and reduce the budget deficit....
Why not take all professionals in the regulated sector into protective custody where their work can be supervised directly by AML morale officers?
V. Putin
I imagine AML compliance would be "better" if something was actually done about the SAR's filed.
I used to be an MLRO and made many SAR's while in the role but sweet FA was ever done by anybody. All that happened was I got visited by the HMRC supervisor to tell me off for insulting a client in one of my reports.
So what is the problem that is trying to be solved?
Is it drug barons and organised crime syndicates laundering money? If it is then the answer is simple. The powers that be with all their intelligence stuff will know who these people are, so no need for us to monitor.
Is it the subbie doing private work and not declaring? If it is, they don't tell us so this cannot be monitored.
Total waste of time energy and money.
What a complete load of w****rs these people are. As has been said they do nothing with the information received so we send them reports, wasting our time, and knowing that they are too idle to do anything with the information. They can't be bothered to close the tax gap by using the information but would rather be paid for sitting on their duffs and making everyone else's life a misery. And their mates in HMRC are so useless they cannot even do their jobs properly either so it is a total waste of time. Bring back Guy Fawkes and let's start again!
Just got my AML renewal fee: £330. 19,000 members, say 15k registered= £6.27 MILLION. That's just CIOT....
Now can we have a figure for the total succesful prosecutions after SARs have been filed to show how stunningly effective the whole AML pile is and show us all it's well worth being charged for the privilege of yet more box ticking and possibility of being fined for failing to tick every box...
I'd rather we all contributed taxes towards an effective team who would go and catch actual criminals and money launderers, which would be 1000 times as effective and efficient, and would mean not forking out on yet more admin fees.
In terms of successful prosecutions after SARs that is not an easy question to answer for a variety of reasons including -
- Most SARs are submitted by the High Street banks, the most recent figures show approx 900,000 SARs submitted in a year, of which only approx 5,000 were from accountants
- The law enforcement authorities commonly do not prosecute based on SARs but instead use other tools (such as seizing the funds in bank accounts) because these are quicker and less resource-intensive
- There is a high level of confidentiality (in part to protect the reporters).
David
So what is the point of making our lives a misery when nothing is done with the information we provide?
Absolutely mind-blowingly stupid. And we are paying these monkies to devise more ways to make us less efficient and less productive.
Sack the lot of them - we certainly wouldn't miss them and their absence wouldn't be noticed anyway except for the diminishing paperwork.
And they have the gall to call themselves Civil Servants. Not much service for your money folks but they're OK with nice fat pensions to come at our cost again. Sack them!
There is going to be an episode of Any Answers - Live on AML tomorrow (Thursday 4 May) at 1:00pm to which you are all invited. There will be a Q&A during which I shall be available to be harangued. There will also be sensible contributions from Della Hudson.
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/accountingweb-live
With the greatest respect, David, what can you actually tell us that we don't already know?
We pay for a service that is pointless, non existent and only results in fines if not compliant.
Surely, our (specialist) market place is the provision of professional, accountancy and taxation services, for which we practice over many years (in my case since 1973). Then why, in all honesty, are we also perceived and expected to perform "talents" as (typically) unpaid Police officers? In fairness, it actually costs our businesses hundreds of pounds, each year, to perform the tasks, which we never asked for.
And if we don't perform those extraneous duties, to the satisfaction of our regulators, we leave ourselves open to; pernicious fines or, ultimately, imprisonment.
It may be me but, I just don't get it.
"...it actually costs our businesses hundreds of pounds, each year, to perform the tasks.."
If only it was that little!
The comments here are pretty accurate too: https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/onslaught-of-extra-aml-burdens-likely-...