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All aboard! Onboarding fees continue to split opinion

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Are views changing around charging onboarding fees to prospective clients? A recent AccountingWEB webinar suggests that they might.
 

18th Sep 2023
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The term “onboarding”, yet another linguistic gift from our transatlantic neighbours, is quite often met with an exasperated sigh, if not outright derision by many in the accounting profession. Even with a suite of tools ensuring a smoother process, this essential first step with your new client still remains a time-consuming and complex affair.

In an episode of AccountingWEB Live’s Tech Pulse last year, the conversation regarding onboarding quickly turned towards the question of charging for the process. And while our guests were split on the idea, the general theme in the comment section leant more toward the negative, with users arguing that the process is a sunk cost when it comes to bringing in new work.

Charging a fee

However, a more recent conversation on AccountingWEB may hint that moods are softening to this potential money-making process. 

With guest speaker David Winch posing a similar question to fellow guests Danielle Fisher, product manager at GoProposal, and Samantha Nelmes, director of LilyIris Accounting, both admitted they had noticed a step change in how accountants tackled the topic of onboarding.

“We have some accountants who see this as really frustrating because they can’t charge for the onboarding. But we also have a group of accountants who are now starting to adopt the concept of charging for onboarding,” Fisher responded, likening the process to the variety of consultation fees we all pay in other areas of our lives.

“I just think of it as being similar to when I go to the dentist or when I go to the estate agents – there’s always some sort of consultation fee at the start,” Fisher added.

Nelmes agreed with Fisher’s sentiment and has recently taken the plunge, charging clients what she calls a “setup fee”.

“If a client wants to work with us, fabulous. But we have a lot of things that we have to do in order to get you in as a client, so we charge a setup fee in order to do that,” Nelmes said.

After making the decision to charge her clients a nominal £30 fee for onboarding services, Nelmes said that only one client pushed back on the charge, while Fisher had seen “accountants become very successful [charging fees] by packaging it up as an experience or something to do at the start.”

Valuing yourself 

Describing himself as an “old school” accountant, Winch took a more nuanced approach to the topic of fees, arguing that accountants in general undervalue their work, whether that’s during the onboarding process or in further advisory services.

“I think a lot of accountants naturally feel nervous about billing clients for anything. And what we tend to do automatically is undervalue ourselves,” Winch said.

“Because of that, scope creep almost becomes scope dash, with everything getting loaded in. You’ve agreed to do a set of accounts and then suddenly you’re also doing tax returns, or Companies House services. Are you pricing for that?

“Accountants have to recognise that and they have to be prepared to say to the client: ‘Look, you’ve got to pay me a sensible amount for what I’m doing, because that’s what I’m worth.’”

Looking to gain a further understanding from the accounting community, Winch turned to his colleagues with a poll asking whether they too have added a price tag to onboarding. 

Over half of the respondents (57%) admitted they write off the time onboarding a client as a wasted cost, while 24% said they roll it into other fees. However, only 7% charge a nominal amount and 13% charge based on the time and costs of the process. 

Looking over the polling, it seems that many still hadn’t warmed to the idea of charging. However, Winch was especially interested in the fact that most saw onboarding as a “wasted cost”.

“The impression I get is that accountants do regard onboarding as a waste of time and expense, rather than a valuable opportunity to get to know a new client and their business,” Winch said.

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By bendybod
18th Sep 2023 11:39

Having had a couple of time wasters recently, I am more inclined to charge in order to cement the idea that they have committed to something. Then, if the business fails in the first few months or they decide that they want to go somewhere else after all, we have been paid for what we have done so far.

I will give them a free initial meeting still but I will charge at least something for all the form filling etc. After all, we wouldn't hesitate to charge for all the admin at the other end of their company's life cycle.

I actually notice an increase in the "will there be a charge for that" as though they expect it.

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By DJKL
18th Sep 2023 15:07

When we ran our commercial property estate agency, when a new client came along say asking us to lease a property for them we charged a setup fee of £350.

When we let their property at say £20,000 pa our fee would generally be 10% of this , so £2,000, but the £350 already charged would be reduced from this charge, so fee note of £1,650 plus outlays (Boards/platforms etc)

I can see the need to bill up front with all the tyre kickers in the world, but not convinced ,if they do become a client that is later billed, that this should be an additional charge.

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By Mark Lee
19th Sep 2023 09:10

I agree that set up or onboarding fees make good commercial sense and we accept them in other aspects of our lives. One argument against such fees in the past was that accountants absorb them as evidence of their willingness to invest in a relationship that will hopefully go on for years.

One approach I like is when the set up fee is quoted and charged and then offset against fees (on the face of invoices) over the first two or three year. Thus, as long as the client stays with the accountant they do not bear the cost of the set up fee. NB: Accountant's fees are quoted upfront with an annual uplift so that there is no big rise in fees paid after the offset ends.

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By paulinleeds
19th Sep 2023 14:20

It's okay for accountants to take a log view and "absorb them as evidence of their willingness to invest in a relationship", but.........

what if the client doesn't follow that 'investment in the relationship' and disappears before the set-up work is absorbed.

It's also a question of the overall fee. If the work / fee is not that large then it can be more of can the fee for the work be absorbed into the set-up fee.

It can still take as long to set-up a client with a £500 annual fee as a £10,000 annual fee.

I'm more inclined to charge a set-up fee for the small reoccurring work e.g. of £250 to cover ML ID, Engment letters, Due diligence etc

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By stepurhan
20th Sep 2023 13:02

bookmarklee wrote:
One approach I like is when the set up fee is quoted and charged and then offset against fees (on the face of invoices) over the first two or three year. Thus, as long as the client stays with the accountant they do not bear the cost of the set up fee.

I've used this approach for setup in the past. Doesn't cost the clients that stay on any more but gets you a fee from those that flake out.
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By tonyarm
19th Sep 2023 09:55

I have a setup fee as part of my pricing menu. The amount depends on the services they want us to provide. It usually has to be paid up front. I always explain how and why we charge what we do and I've never had a problem with this. It gets charged once they agree to appoint us and covers the initial and quite considerable time involved in the setup admin.

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