Member Since: 3rd Jun 2015
3rd Apr 2020
We need to ease off the "guessing" and wait for the finer details to surface.
I have no doubt there will be employers who claim under the Job Retention Scheme and never pay the employee. I also believe that there will also be some serious whiplash when all this regains control and the audits begin.
As the old adage says "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
10th Sep 2019
Money Laundering all day long.
My advice would be the correct way or no way. He can decide what to do next.
Perhaps even explain what his next move will be if his return is selected for review or even enquiry, and what is his view on your role in having prepared his work in this manner and the possible HMRC repercussions. He probably couldn't care less, in which case, so why should you. Adios!
I have no fear in showing clients the door. I do believe that with the changes coming there will be a glut of clients looking for accountants as well of course a glut of clients looking for accountants no true professional would touch with a proverbial stick!! Accountants will need to learn to tell them apart!!
21st Jun 2019
Yep, just checked the date, it's not 1 April. I thought we had passed it.
7th Jun 2019
A very relaxed thread of responses.
Everyone is clearly loosening up for the weekend.
3rd May 2019
Bye Bye! Au Revoir! Adios! Arrivederci! Auf Wiedersehen!
(Not sue how you would say "you are joking!")
On a more serious note, I have no doubt this client is "playing you", I wouldn't take delivery of the company's records for that. On the basis of the clients audacity I would expect a difficult relationship from the off, so best not go there.
24th Apr 2019
Just checked the date. Yep, not 1st April!
11th Dec 2018
I call this client behaviour "the homework syndrome", don't do it until it has to be!!
Such circumstances are all too familiar. I set a deadline of 20th to guarantee the work meeting the deadline.
Other than exceptional circumstances, I have taken an increasingly firmer stance on such liberty takers, (to put it mildly), such that I forced out a couple of such clients this year, albeit lost fees. I just don't need it. My well being is far more important than such repeated offenders which bring with them unhealthy levels of stress and grief.
Some sensible suggestions and ideas put forward but unfortunately no ideas will change most clients with this mindset, which leads to more focus on the quality of client being engaged with. This behaviour also questions how such clients run other parts of their business and how much longevity the business has in this mode.
In the future, many such clients will find themselves struggling to appoint accountants if they continue such habits.
13th Jul 2018
I don't think this is bribery, but certainly a naughty move, albeit genuine, or is it?
Although this type of deal goes on, have you seen evidence of this or are they just paving the way to pushing down your fees?
The cynic in me!
11th Jul 2018
Always worth an appeal, but I agree with the other comments.
Although you may have made an error without checking, it's also worth advising the client that they should have been aware of a notice to deliver, in the absence of which you assumed (incorrectly) none was. Still, more care should have been adopted when considering the original need to file a return.
Incidentally, a £100 late filing penalty would have been issued before 1 May (not 1 March as stated), which should have alerted the failure and which I would have expected the client to be jumping up and down when they received it. It seems odd that it got the next tier of penalties before any action had been considered. Sounds like the client must accept, at least, some responsibility, if not most.
Not what you want hear I know.
10th Jul 2018
I would not associate my name with any work that I know or suspect is shoddy.
I would explain the problems you have with it, the importance and gravity your good reputation adds to them and that you need to be satisfied that the submission is worthy of your work.
You may need to be firm and possibly unintentionally insensitive but then that's life, you cannot fuel a later issue concerning fault. If they cannot or do not want to pay for it they will have to deal with it or find a cheaper option. But as I say, often cheap is expensive in the long run!!