you are quite right, I am going from salary to hourly rate then hourly rate to salary. Sorry.
Very useful response, again thank you.
One of my client has hourly contracted staff paid a salary despite telling them that hourly contracted staff should be paid hourly. But because they had so much changes when merger happened that they did not want to rock the boat further with changing the way that they were paid i.e. a salary. Historically, contracted hourly staff have always been paid a salary. At least now, it is calculated properly. Hence why I was doing the exercise yesterday morning. And yes, I already made note to change it in 2025!
My thoughts exactly. I prepared in December with 52.2857 ready for January but now having made the above calculations, I will change it again now before we run the January payroll.
Thank you for taking the time to reply. All the best.
The process is not complicated at such and I have never had problems adding/importing data.
The problem is HMRC duplicating employment. The minute you send the FPS, then you are at the mercy of computers and HMRC.
You will have 10 employees: 8 employees with no problems what so ever and boom you will have hours of worked for the 2 other employees who have duplicated employment and will start receiving letter with underpaid tax. it takes WEEKS to sort the mess.
All down to the RTI number that sage generates. So not matter how careful, no matter how much you follow the guides to the T, and no matter that everything is identical to the original data, once you click to send your FPS, you cross everything yo have in hope that it will not be a messy one to deal with.
But with the surged of covid cases again, are you advising clients that the covid related SSP no longer exist anymore as the scheme is now closed, or are we advising clients that although you can't claim it back, employees are still entitled to SSP form day 1 when absence is covid related ( with proof)?
the current legislation is all about claiming back ( where the scheme is now closed) but there is nothing to say that the employees can/can't still get SSP from day 1 if covid related absence. With the lack of information, what do we say to clients?
but what about this? see link above for the whole article
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It would appear that the suspension of the requirement to wait for three days before SSP is paid has not yet been repealed. The three-day rule was suspended temporarily during the peak of the COVID-19 crisis to encourage people to stay at home as soon as they felt ill.
This effect is that SMEs must continue to pay SSP from the first day an employee is unable to work, making SSP more expensive than it was before the pandemic. The Tax Faculty awaits clarification on this point.
Just that it is breached of the RTI rules rather than submitting late because of sickness, hospital etc ( I can't remember what was the other excuses listed by HMRC sorry)
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you are quite right, I am going from salary to hourly rate then hourly rate to salary. Sorry.
Very useful response, again thank you.
One of my client has hourly contracted staff paid a salary despite telling them that hourly contracted staff should be paid hourly. But because they had so much changes when merger happened that they did not want to rock the boat further with changing the way that they were paid i.e. a salary. Historically, contracted hourly staff have always been paid a salary. At least now, it is calculated properly. Hence why I was doing the exercise yesterday morning. And yes, I already made note to change it in 2025!
Have a good day.
My thoughts exactly. I prepared in December with 52.2857 ready for January but now having made the above calculations, I will change it again now before we run the January payroll.
Thank you for taking the time to reply. All the best.
I wish I was not...but there you go!!
The process is not complicated at such and I have never had problems adding/importing data.
The problem is HMRC duplicating employment. The minute you send the FPS, then you are at the mercy of computers and HMRC.
You will have 10 employees: 8 employees with no problems what so ever and boom you will have hours of worked for the 2 other employees who have duplicated employment and will start receiving letter with underpaid tax. it takes WEEKS to sort the mess.
All down to the RTI number that sage generates. So not matter how careful, no matter how much you follow the guides to the T, and no matter that everything is identical to the original data, once you click to send your FPS, you cross everything yo have in hope that it will not be a messy one to deal with.
So your doing it the other way around?
Fingers crossed it does not duplicate employment like it does when you go into sage.
Fingers crossed for you.
p.s I would leave Sage too if I could
I don't even know how to do it on a computer!!!
loads of clients do it, so times are changing
But with the surged of covid cases again, are you advising clients that the covid related SSP no longer exist anymore as the scheme is now closed, or are we advising clients that although you can't claim it back, employees are still entitled to SSP form day 1 when absence is covid related ( with proof)?
the current legislation is all about claiming back ( where the scheme is now closed) but there is nothing to say that the employees can/can't still get SSP from day 1 if covid related absence. With the lack of information, what do we say to clients?
https://www.icaew.com/insights/tax-news/2021/sep-2021/COVID-sick-pay-reb...
but what about this? see link above for the whole article
.
It would appear that the suspension of the requirement to wait for three days before SSP is paid has not yet been repealed. The three-day rule was suspended temporarily during the peak of the COVID-19 crisis to encourage people to stay at home as soon as they felt ill.
This effect is that SMEs must continue to pay SSP from the first day an employee is unable to work, making SSP more expensive than it was before the pandemic. The Tax Faculty awaits clarification on this point.
i just read the agent update . The way I understand it, they can be put on furlough if they don't have symptoms themselves.
Just that it is breached of the RTI rules rather than submitting late because of sickness, hospital etc ( I can't remember what was the other excuses listed by HMRC sorry)