Our software will pick up and transmit data from an OpenOffice spreadsheet (as well as various others). www.tax.co.uk/mtd/
As mentioned by others, it is only the totals that are transmitted but you should be keeping all the transaction data electronically too in order to comply with the rules.
I think the two figures are because there are two different MTDs being discussed, mtd for vat coming in April and mtd for income tax coming at some point in the future
Under mtd the hmrc will not get open door access to cloud records, in fact there is no requirement to use cloud software, just to keep records electronically. In an investigation the hmrc will be able to request/demand the equivalent of the sage backups, which they will analyse by computer. There will be no change in the criteria for launching an investigation but will make them more efficient (from their point of view). As stated above, the fact you can currently frustrate an investigation by supplying the electronic records on paper is probably one of the reasons mtd is coming.
You need to talk to whoever is running the website or check your internet connection. "Old fashioned" websites would just load up whole pages. This was often not very interactive so more interactive websites use a technique called Ajax (that stands for asynchronous JavaScript and xml.). The web page runs code written in JavaScript that pulls down information from the server after the page has initially loaded. This error would indicate to me a coding error in the JavaScript or an intermittent connection problem with your connection or the server. It could also be caused by security settings in your browser or firewall blocking the call.
I think the lack of choice given to men when it comes to "meeting clients attire" is a good thing. Have you seen what happens when given the freedom of "smart casual".
That said, I am sitting at my desk still in my cycling kit.
@paulheliker - Some of our customers have come across this situation also. Two almost identical returns submitted say with a £3000 refund due and transmitted from the software (and agreed by the gateway).
Then when the actual payment comes thru one is for the correct £3000, the other for £3145.60 (i.e. clas 2 ni is being refunded on top of the calculated and transmitted repayment)
The reason for this apparently is that one of the tax payers had not registered with HMRC for class 2. Now IMO a more sensible approach would be for the HMRC to hang on to the £145.60 and send a letter saying "why have you not registered" or just register them automatically rather than refunding the money.
I just verified and signed myself in via the post office. Considering it is in beta it worked quite well. It would have been good to have more detailed feedback ( it took me a while to spot my passport details were failing due to missing middle name ).
Taking photos of my driving licence using the app felt very hi-tech -- until it didnt work. I then keyed in manually and everything went through ok.
The smartphone app asked me to point the camera at myself -- and then asked me to move to prove I was alive. I know I am looking a bit rough with a bad cold, but still.
I see they are calling them digital tax accounts (DTA) and rejected my suggestion of Personal Income Tax Accounts (PITA).
If you were a large employer using direct bacs payments then the mismatch in dates would be detected via the rti bacs hash code that is transmitted both as part of the FPS and the BACS payment.
Q1.13: Will HMRC be publishing what happens where the hash does not match the one created by Vocalink?
A: It will feed into HMRC and DWP risk assessment procedures used to target education and compliance activities.
Q1.14: What is the submission 'window' between making a Bacs payment and making an RTI submission?
A: RTI submissions should be made on or before the time of payment. Where the payment is made by Bacs, the payment will be for a given settlement date and the RTI submission should be submitted by that date.
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Our software will pick up and transmit data from an OpenOffice spreadsheet (as well as various others). www.tax.co.uk/mtd/
As mentioned by others, it is only the totals that are transmitted but you should be keeping all the transaction data electronically too in order to comply with the rules.
David
I think the two figures are because there are two different MTDs being discussed, mtd for vat coming in April and mtd for income tax coming at some point in the future
Under mtd the hmrc will not get open door access to cloud records, in fact there is no requirement to use cloud software, just to keep records electronically. In an investigation the hmrc will be able to request/demand the equivalent of the sage backups, which they will analyse by computer. There will be no change in the criteria for launching an investigation but will make them more efficient (from their point of view). As stated above, the fact you can currently frustrate an investigation by supplying the electronic records on paper is probably one of the reasons mtd is coming.
I remember back in 1996-97 when market dominating software supplier CSM announced their tax software wouldn't be ready until May :-)
You need to talk to whoever is running the website or check your internet connection. "Old fashioned" websites would just load up whole pages. This was often not very interactive so more interactive websites use a technique called Ajax (that stands for asynchronous JavaScript and xml.). The web page runs code written in JavaScript that pulls down information from the server after the page has initially loaded. This error would indicate to me a coding error in the JavaScript or an intermittent connection problem with your connection or the server. It could also be caused by security settings in your browser or firewall blocking the call.
I think the lack of choice given to men when it comes to "meeting clients attire" is a good thing. Have you seen what happens when given the freedom of "smart casual".
That said, I am sitting at my desk still in my cycling kit.
non registration
@paulheliker - Some of our customers have come across this situation also. Two almost identical returns submitted say with a £3000 refund due and transmitted from the software (and agreed by the gateway).
Then when the actual payment comes thru one is for the correct £3000, the other for £3145.60 (i.e. clas 2 ni is being refunded on top of the calculated and transmitted repayment)
The reason for this apparently is that one of the tax payers had not registered with HMRC for class 2. Now IMO a more sensible approach would be for the HMRC to hang on to the £145.60 and send a letter saying "why have you not registered" or just register them automatically rather than refunding the money.
@dmgbus -- Regarding the number of ni weeks in this tax year - the definition of the NI week that we use in our calculations is http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/nimmanual/nim20200.htm
David Forbes
seemed ok for a beta
I just verified and signed myself in via the post office. Considering it is in beta it worked quite well. It would have been good to have more detailed feedback ( it took me a while to spot my passport details were failing due to missing middle name ).
Taking photos of my driving licence using the app felt very hi-tech -- until it didnt work. I then keyed in manually and everything went through ok.
The smartphone app asked me to point the camera at myself -- and then asked me to move to prove I was alive. I know I am looking a bit rough with a bad cold, but still.
I see they are calling them digital tax accounts (DTA) and rejected my suggestion of Personal Income Tax Accounts (PITA).
Depends
How much was the refund for ?
BACS originator
If you were a large employer using direct bacs payments then the mismatch in dates would be detected via the rti bacs hash code that is transmitted both as part of the FPS and the BACS payment.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/softwaredevelopers/rti/developerfaqs.htm
Q1.13: Will HMRC be publishing what happens where the hash does not match the one created by Vocalink?
A: It will feed into HMRC and DWP risk assessment procedures used to target education and compliance activities.
Q1.14: What is the submission 'window' between making a Bacs payment and making an RTI submission?
A: RTI submissions should be made on or before the time of payment. Where the payment is made by Bacs, the payment will be for a given settlement date and the RTI submission should be submitted by that date.