A similar post is also going on here and it Xero for me
As I have said in that post, Kashflow could be one to watch now that it is part of the Iris stable
I agree Sage appears to have lost its way with the cloud, not because it cannot do it, but because of the infighting between its (what I think are great) desktop products, and all frightened of losing revenue. A great shame because if they applied all that customer knowledge to a product it could be amazing.
Because whatever they do, the rest do 6 - 12 months later
Xero will fit any client, almost any size, except those who need detailed stock reporting/control, or those who want very tailored reporting (not how I said want rather than need!).
I do think that now Kashflow has been bought outright by Iris they could be one to watch
I have to say that this has been an interesting thread and a bit spicy at times. Those of you that know me will also know that I love Xero with a passion, but I do have to agree that the price is just too high.
Those practices who's partners are attending will be okay as for most the cost is usually not an issue, but our practice will only now pay for one person to attend, but I feel that many of us minions would benefit greatly from attending.
As you love Iris (as do I) perhaps there might be some room for negotiation re price - perhaps easy payment terms? It seems a shame to go away from a product you know and like and have to retrain (and therefore lose chargeable time).
Have you checked your hardware? There have been numerous rumblings about the speed issues on the iris and open docs integration, but what I would say first is to check your hardware. If you have any winxp pcs and 100mb switches then you need to replace these, and also check that your server is "up to the job". I have done some consultancy work re doc management systems and in all cases problems have happened due to hardware being not up,to the task. If you are replacing pcs I would also recommend solid state hard drives. Cost a little extra but if you save 10 mins a day the easy to recover that.
This week we have just completed a very smooth and successful move over from Invu to VC and I have to say it went so smoothly it was unreal. The staff have all taken to it so well and they love the extra functionality and when you add in the portal to easily get forms signed and back in seconds it really does make sense to change.
If you want to have a chat about it then please feel free to send me a PM.
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Xero for me
A similar post is also going on here and it Xero for me
As I have said in that post, Kashflow could be one to watch now that it is part of the Iris stable
I agree Sage appears to have lost its way with the cloud, not because it cannot do it, but because of the infighting between its (what I think are great) desktop products, and all frightened of losing revenue. A great shame because if they applied all that customer knowledge to a product it could be amazing.
Xero
Because whatever they do, the rest do 6 - 12 months later
Xero will fit any client, almost any size, except those who need detailed stock reporting/control, or those who want very tailored reporting (not how I said want rather than need!).
I do think that now Kashflow has been bought outright by Iris they could be one to watch
Xero for me
Has to be Xero as they are the leading vendor in this market space.
Kashflow is a okay and with the recent acquisition by Iris may have added benefits in the future e.g. intergration, improved user interface etc
Also worth a look is Clearbooks
Hope this helps
Iris OpenTax
If you click the buy it shows the prices starts at £140 for 25 personal tax returns
Iris OpenTax
Have you looked at the new OpenTax offering from Iris?
The price is set based on the city
I have to say that this has been an interesting thread and a bit spicy at times. Those of you that know me will also know that I love Xero with a passion, but I do have to agree that the price is just too high.
Those practices who's partners are attending will be okay as for most the cost is usually not an issue, but our practice will only now pay for one person to attend, but I feel that many of us minions would benefit greatly from attending.
Have you gone back to Iris and renegotiated
As you love Iris (as do I) perhaps there might be some room for negotiation re price - perhaps easy payment terms? It seems a shame to go away from a product you know and like and have to retrain (and therefore lose chargeable time).
You won't regret it
I think you have made a wise decision. If you want to bounce anything off me (except a brick maybe!!) pm me
Have you checked your hardware?
There have been numerous rumblings about the speed issues on the iris and open docs integration, but what I would say first is to check your hardware. If you have any winxp pcs and 100mb switches then you need to replace these, and also check that your server is "up to the job". I have done some consultancy work re doc management systems and in all cases problems have happened due to hardware being not up,to the task. If you are replacing pcs I would also recommend solid state hard drives. Cost a little extra but if you save 10 mins a day the easy to recover that.
Just moved over
This week we have just completed a very smooth and successful move over from Invu to VC and I have to say it went so smoothly it was unreal. The staff have all taken to it so well and they love the extra functionality and when you add in the portal to easily get forms signed and back in seconds it really does make sense to change.
If you want to have a chat about it then please feel free to send me a PM.