I am so immensely grateful to the poster who gave that link! I have a number of clients who have no idea when their date of first registration is, and I have found that HMRC won't give it to us by phone, even when we have a 64-8 in place.
19 July deadline? As I understand it, as long as the return goes in by 19 July, there is no penalty. Can anyone confirm this? It seems to say this on the P11Db form 'Penalties are chargeable if your P11Db form is not submitted by 19 July'
But there is a plus side I have had quite a few of these calls. In several cases, I was able to point out that the amounts they were chasing weren't actually due (either they had already been paid, or HMRC had made an error (shock horror!)).
I was glad they called me first because I was able to put the record straight without my clients being worried or upset by the call from HMRC.
None today Just realised I have had no e-mail confirmations at all for any returns filed today. Sage software is saying they are accepted, so I assume it is just a delay in sending out the e-mails. I hope so anyway :(
We are aware of a problem affecting customers using HMRC’s free online filing product to file their 2007-08 Self Assessment tax return and who have requested to have their tax collected through their PAYE tax code number.
HMRC can only consider collecting amounts due (up to £2000) through a customer’s PAYE Code Number when the tax return is filed on or before 30 December. After this date this option should be unavailable but it is presently available.
We are urgently investigating and will provide an update as soon as possible. In the meantime customers should be aware that they cannot request to have an amount collected through their PAYE code number if they file their tax return after 30 December and any tax due should be paid by 31 January 2009. Further information is available.
Customers who filed before 30 December 2008 or who use third party software to file their Self Assessment tax returns are not affected by this problem.
Interested I'm very interested in that software. Does it do online filing of returns? I have just started doing this, and it is so much better than paper filing.
Try it and see! As far as I can work out, the best (maybe only) way to prove they are exempt is to try to submit online. If it doesn't go through, then you can submit by paper and appeal any penalty by showing the printout of the failed submission. If it does go through, then problem solved!
By the way, does anyone know the current position for non-domiciled people? I thought you could now file them online, but last time I tried there were still problems.
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Thank you thank you thank you
I am so immensely grateful to the poster who gave that link! I have a number of clients who have no idea when their date of first registration is, and I have found that HMRC won't give it to us by phone, even when we have a 64-8 in place.
This is going to make my life so much easier.
19 July deadline?
As I understand it, as long as the return goes in by 19 July, there is no penalty. Can anyone confirm this? It seems to say this on the P11Db form 'Penalties are chargeable if your P11Db form is not submitted by 19 July'
But there is a plus side
I have had quite a few of these calls. In several cases, I was able to point out that the amounts they were chasing weren't actually due (either they had already been paid, or HMRC had made an error (shock horror!)).
I was glad they called me first because I was able to put the record straight without my clients being worried or upset by the call from HMRC.
PSA
You could look into creating a PAYE Settlement Agreement so that the company bears the tax and NI rather than the individuals?
None today
Just realised I have had no e-mail confirmations at all for any returns filed today. Sage software is saying they are accepted, so I assume it is just a delay in sending out the e-mails. I hope so anyway :(
Have you seen this?
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/underpayments.htm
We are aware of a problem affecting customers using HMRC’s free online filing product to file their 2007-08 Self Assessment tax return and who have requested to have their tax collected through their PAYE tax code number.
HMRC can only consider collecting amounts due (up to £2000) through a customer’s PAYE Code Number when the tax return is filed on or before 30 December. After this date this option should be unavailable but it is presently available.
We are urgently investigating and will provide an update as soon as possible. In the meantime customers should be aware that they cannot request to have an amount collected through their PAYE code number if they file their tax return after 30 December and any tax due should be paid by 31 January 2009. Further information is available.
Customers who filed before 30 December 2008 or who use third party software to file their Self Assessment tax returns are not affected by this problem.
Interested
I'm very interested in that software. Does it do online filing of returns? I have just started doing this, and it is so much better than paper filing.
I agree
I'm impressed by the FL Memo books too. Would definitely recommend them!
Can't opt to tax
Actually, you can't opt to tax residential property, only commercial property.
So no VAT issues, income is totally exempt.
Try it and see!
As far as I can work out, the best (maybe only) way to prove they are exempt is to try to submit online. If it doesn't go through, then you can submit by paper and appeal any penalty by showing the printout of the failed submission. If it does go through, then problem solved!
By the way, does anyone know the current position for non-domiciled people? I thought you could now file them online, but last time I tried there were still problems.