Really k743nx, if you're going to have a rant, make it a good 'un. "Noisy wedding party - police fail to jail the lot". Gordon Bennett. Very annoying for sure but the police have better things to do. Probably no one wanted to make a big deal out of it by the time they arrived anyway. The hotel wouldn't want the publicity and the guests had probably calmed down.
And it's not the police's fault the accounts clerk wasn't jailed.
"anything of a technical nature which will require a consideration of many and complex variables to determine whether it is really suitable for the job required."
Yes but that does not require a comparison. If you want to find a product that is better or best then a comparison is required. To find a product that does what you need does not need a comparison - it either does it or it doesn't.
I attend 4 or so lectures a year. Plan an attractive cross country route, travel by motorcycle, cruise past the traffic jams on the way home. Gets out of the office, get to get free advice from the lecturer and travel in a way I love. What's not to like? :-)
can't answer the first three because I do not have the latest version of Sage and/or because they are facilities I do not use. But the accounts chart has never been fixed (or hasn't for as long as I've used Sage); I have some very heavily tailored ones. You do need account numbers though.
I agree the initial purchase can be quite expensive. But there is no need to upgrade every year and all of my clients using Sage have ditched Sagecover. The Sage support is indeed very good but they just haven't had the need to use it. The only potential downside is a severe data corruption which might be expensive to sort out (but they have good backup routines and error checking - but never say never!). So the lifetime cost is pretty low.
There are of course other good systems out there and Sage is probably not suitable for very small businesses (VT is a great solution there) but for those in my client base which tend to be quite complex but not very large businesses, it works very well and is robust and, since we do not use it for reporting anyway, a lot of the shortcomings are bypassed. Yes - there are things it doesn't do and should do but I rarely find they cause me significant problems.
I don't get involved with payroll but those of my clients who use it swear by it (this would be the full version). But I grant it does seem expensive.
My answers
What a useless rant
Really k743nx, if you're going to have a rant, make it a good 'un. "Noisy wedding party - police fail to jail the lot". Gordon Bennett. Very annoying for sure but the police have better things to do. Probably no one wanted to make a big deal out of it by the time they arrived anyway. The hotel wouldn't want the publicity and the guests had probably calmed down.
And it's not the police's fault the accounts clerk wasn't jailed.
Just to have 3 different ones
Glen,
Can't disagree with your choice but 3 others for fun:
Status bar sums, count, etc.
Tables and filters
Keyboard shortcuts
Paul
Consideration or comparison
"anything of a technical nature which will require a consideration of many and complex variables to determine whether it is really suitable for the job required."
Yes but that does not require a comparison. If you want to find a product that is better or best then a comparison is required. To find a product that does what you need does not need a comparison - it either does it or it doesn't.
For every complex problem,
there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L Mencken.
:-)
The travelling is to be enjoyed
I attend 4 or so lectures a year. Plan an attractive cross country route, travel by motorcycle, cruise past the traffic jams on the way home. Gets out of the office, get to get free advice from the lecturer and travel in a way I love. What's not to like? :-)
Accounts chart
@ Nigel
can't answer the first three because I do not have the latest version of Sage and/or because they are facilities I do not use. But the accounts chart has never been fixed (or hasn't for as long as I've used Sage); I have some very heavily tailored ones. You do need account numbers though.
Yes - others do
e.g. Sage (for many though not all transactions), VT Transaction +
That's the way of the internet
;-)
Cost of Sage
I agree the initial purchase can be quite expensive. But there is no need to upgrade every year and all of my clients using Sage have ditched Sagecover. The Sage support is indeed very good but they just haven't had the need to use it. The only potential downside is a severe data corruption which might be expensive to sort out (but they have good backup routines and error checking - but never say never!). So the lifetime cost is pretty low.
There are of course other good systems out there and Sage is probably not suitable for very small businesses (VT is a great solution there) but for those in my client base which tend to be quite complex but not very large businesses, it works very well and is robust and, since we do not use it for reporting anyway, a lot of the shortcomings are bypassed. Yes - there are things it doesn't do and should do but I rarely find they cause me significant problems.
I don't get involved with payroll but those of my clients who use it swear by it (this would be the full version). But I grant it does seem expensive.
I agree
there has been little incremental improvement; at least to the extent it would benefit my clients (some are still running V11 very happily).
But I was curious about the export to excel negativity - ceratinly as far as transactional information is concerned I have found it pretty good.