Can’t help feeling that these articles are becoming a little “have you been injured at work, suffered a slip, trip or fall, or taken out PPI”.
She relied on a tax barrister......would be interesting to know if she received any of that advice in writing or if it was just 3rd party pub talk via the client. Any repercussions now on him?
So that read something like.......
Sorry I spilt your pint, but don’t worry i’ll steal a bit of money off everyone else in the pub without them knowing it and they’ll buy you another, if I was actually sorry then i’d Contribute myself out of my own pocket but i’m not, so i won’t. Besides I finish work at 5pm, and don’t work Thursdays.
Such a shame that we don't get to find out the true name of Mrs B, I pity the next firm of accountants that has the pleasure of her as a client, not knowing her nature and history.
Briefly looking at a few of the other ICAEW orders...….number 5 practised for 14 years without a certificate resulting in fines and costs of about £6,150.
Number 8 practised for 5 years without a certificate, fines and costs of £2,317.
Number 10 practised without a certificate for 9 years with a penalty of £700.
With practising certificate fees at £335 per annum, I wouldn't call these penalties, they're more like an extended credit line with generous discounts for bad behaviour. If the firms/individuals didn't bother with a practising certificate, then did they also not bother with the cost of PII, or CPD? As well as avoiding the ongoing admin time, costs and stress of general regulation, audit and quality assurance visits from the ICAEW.
There must be a tremendous amount of undisclosed background information, because on the face of it the decisions are ludicrously inconsistent and nonsensical.
Yes, I totally accept that staff may not have access to the legislation, google or even Accountingweb during working hours, and that they probably aren't given the time to research such things during the paid working day, but what I was getting at was the personal and professional pride that I simply assumed was human nature that someone who is in the business of advising or dealing with accountancy and tax-related matters (or infact absolutely anything in everyday life) , may perhaps have sufficient interest or pride to read and research around the job that they get paid for.
What I find so disappointing is that, regardless of how short staffed or underpaid or how much stress HMRC staff may be under (and I'd probably dispute at least 2 of these), why is it that individuals appear not to have any personal or professional inclination to actually read up on the laws, regulations, or general background area of things such as this. Whats happened to professional pride and competence, I can't imagine working in a job where I simply didn't care or couldn't be bothered to find out the actual facts or truth on topics that I'm advising people on. So as much as the middle and top brass at HMRC are to blame for the failings in the system, the lower level staff are possibly equally as bad for simply not caring, having pride in their job or being bothered to learn sufficiently about what they do.
I know that I spend tens if not a few hundred hours reading and learning about accountancy-related matters, the majority of which is done in my own time.
We rely on the judges to give us an honest appraisal of those firms, I sincerely hope that they have done a thorough job, it’s concerning that you say some of those firms have poor reviews from clients that are visible to any member of the public but are being considered as excellent, although to be fair we all have bad clients and fall-outs sometimes.
What I simply can’t begin to understand is that there are no financials or comments on the profitability of those firms, why on earth would I want to copy (or learn from) one of these winners if they’re making a measly profit, or even losses. What credibility is there that we can trust? We’re accountants, we love numbers,but we’re not given any.
I understand that not everyone wants their financials analysed but if you put yourself forwards for these awards then that’s the price of doing so.
Disgracefully sensible and top notch advice. I’m afraid you’ll never win any Practice Excellence awards though with that attitude!
No penalties imposed on Bob’s bathroom?
On what basis are the debt collectors remunerated? Is it a fixed fee or % of recovery?