There is a Declaration Box ... Sort Of
There is a declaration box at the end, so generally I suspect we will be planting the e-signature box (we use Adobe Echosign) where the 'Name' box is.
Alternatively have them sign the actual computation right under the 'tax payable' figure - that's all they're interested in anyway.
Not convinced the design flaw isn't just a bureaucratic cock[***]-up though.
Replacement with Modern Equivalent
I agree with Phil. I see it as analogous with the oft-quoted (including by HMRC) example of replacing single glazed windows with double glazed untis. No-one would build a house today with storage heaters or single glazed windows - therefore, revenue.
Oh go on then...
Out of c. 100...
12 out for approval
5 awaiting answers
15 ready to start (no biggies)
14 not received yet - meh.
Should be pretty well clear by the weekend.
Silos Within Silos
Unless the client contacts us on receipt of a code, we don't tend to look at them online anyway until return time, by then most of them seem to be on there ... I think!
Oldmanwetmix is right - PAYE and SA rarely talk to each other it seems - except when, just under twelve months after the return's gone in when they notice a mismatch between the SA figures and some stray P60. (Same can be said for SA and CIS - odd how they can't seem to supply CIS payment/deduction details until the enquiry is opened and then ... voila!)
Where a client has only recently gone on to self-assessment then you might expect to be doing the return after a P800 has been issued. However, we have at least two clients where the return threw up a refund which, it turned out, was already accounted for on the P800. Nevertheless, the SA refund was duly issued. We told the client to hang on to that refund because at some point HMRC should be asking for it back. That was two years ago.
Definitely been worse this year with the slackers, and I've noticed no HMRC advertising apart from on radio. (I guess Lin Homer's golden goodbye has to come from somewhere!)
We just let them drift now, barring an email reminder to cover ourselves. They're now really just a category of client that treats the filing deadline as being end Feb or 30th April, which ironically makes January less stressful that it could otherwise be.
Mind you, we've missed a trick in previous years of not charging for doing the penalty appeals - given that they invariably succeed. I think this year it'll be £50 for appealing a £100 fine. Seems fair.
The Innkeeper wrote:
I called the agents SA helpline this morning. The individual who answered first said ' and the purpose of your call today is' I felt like saying to get the time but hey ho it was a technical CGT point of where to put a relief on the CGT pages. I was promised a call back within 2 days as no technical person was available. I pass no further polite observation.
I noticed that too, is it a new thing? I can understand that they're trying to 'triage' calls, but this is the agents' line, and surely if it's a non-routine matter it would take just as long to explain it regardless of the opening question. I was just requesting some 302s so it only made the call longer than if they'd simply asked for the UTR/NINo from the off.
Or maybe January's just making me ratty.
For term-time staff - who have to take holiday at set times and are not paid then - it's not uncommon (and is legal) to pay the holiday using the 12.1% method.
Write to HMRC
We had a very similar situation once; it was actually a slight misunderstanding of the nature of the client's role. We wrote to HMRC (also before the first return) and they changed the sector/rate.
Confused by the statements that the shares can't have exactly the same rights.
From the article:
The “new” shares created under an alphabet scheme are an outright gift and have the same rights as the original ordinary shares.
Are we saying the two classes can't rank pari passu?
I've seen those too. I did wonder once about putting in an FoI or getting my MP to ask. Have never got around to it though.