Found this in the high court judgement ". If there is pay data there, it will be transmitted immediately from HMRC to DWP if the ‘payment date’ falls within the assessment period. The correct completion of the ‘payment date’ field on the Real Time Information submission is therefore key in allocating earnings information to an assessment period." - I haven't actually changed the pay dates, they are all dated for the month end, I've just double checked the RTI returns yet Universal Credit are going by the filing date and taking that as the pay date. What a mess.
That's a helpful link Jane, I've contacted the employee and put her on to that. She understands finance, she has an accountancy background and is going to appeal using that information. Trying to speak to these people is like banging your head against the wall, they can't give coherent answers just repeating they can't change policy. This judgement shows they don't understand what their policies are.
Thing is I hadn't actually changed the pay date, I just reported it late due to the delay in receiving codes and that was enough for Universal Credit to wrongly assume the employee was paid 4 times in one month. The correct information has been reported to HMRC, I can see on their system the payments are allocated to the correct months but Universal Credit are refusing to accept that. They say the reporting date is the pay date.
They did remove her first month's pay as they, apparently, allow an employee to upload a payslip for the first month when in a new job but they refused to reallocate the others to the correct basis periods.
I agree I did edit the post to clarify the property had been purchased a long time ago, not inherited and omitted to alter part of the text, however, that was nothing to do with the outrageous tone of one of the responses. Trolling does not have any place online let alone a forum that is supposed to be frequented by professionals. It lowers the tone and it is never warranted, ever. Thankfully the majority of users here have some basic manners and decency.
Edit - just seen your second post - I clarfied my error in another comment, perhaps you haven't seen it but the property was purchased and not inherited as I was originally informed. I think, from discussing with other members that the date of death is a key date in this occasion. I'm clear enough on your other points, thanks for adding, I've enough to work on the ensure a provisonal is filed for now.
Er, the facts in the OP matters a lot. 'I' will not be accepting anything, neither a £100 fine that has nothing to do with me not will I be accepting the advice from someone who appears to have hit the drink at breakfast.
Oops, sorry, that's an error. I originally was given the wrong information, I had edited the post to reflect the fact he actually purchased the property many years ago but did omitted to change it all. Apologies, I can see how that would confuse issues!
Just to clarify - the death of the mother is the more important date here, apparently she was in a home for a year prior to dying. She was so odd about the property my brother in law didn't touch the house until she was gone, the date of death would probably be the most important one in this case.
Oh dear, I got as far as 'you and your brother'. Again I reiterate - go back and read my original post, again and see if you can work out, all by yourself where you went so badly wrong.
Introduction date makes sense. From my experience in flipping properties in the past its the hidden, often expensive works that don't affect the property price that much - the rewiring, plumbing, damp proofing etc although they do make the property more attractive to sell, but its rather the upgrade of a new kitchen and bathroom that tends to add value? It has been 15 years since I did that type of sideline though, maybe things have changed. I can gain clarification on that with an estate agent client. Many thanks for your kind input.
Property tax is quite complicated. I am always surprised by accountants thinking its easy.
You have left this ridiculously late to get advice.
The fine is only £100, which is a piddly amount of money in the scheme of things. Suck it up and do it properly when you can.
And I am always surprised at the downright snotty attitude of some on this site at times who aren't capable of reading a comment properly, instead preferring to jump on something they have half read, picked out the parts they want in order to construct a narrive as an excuse to snipe and jibe at others. Do try reading again to see where you went badly wrong with your comment. f you don't want to give any advice I really don't give care but keep your downright nasty comments to yourself. I suggest you get some friends, take yourself out more, try the pub, you may feel a bit happier about your life instead of attempting to boost your ego by trolling others.