Cumbrian killer linked to tax investigation

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Derrick Bird, the man who shot dead 12 people before turning the gun on himself in Cumbria this week, was reportedly under investigation by HMRC over £60,000 of undeclared earnings.

Bird is said to have received a tax demand in excess of £10,000. Mark Cooper, a friend of Bird, told journalists that the taxi driver was afraid of going to prison.

"All he said was that they had caught him with £60,000 in the bank," Cooper told the Telegraph. "He said, 'They have caught me with £60,000 in the bank, the tax people'. He just said, 'I'll go to jail'.

"He just asked me if he could handle jail. He didn't want to go."

A spokesman for Cumbria Police confirmed to th...

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07th Jun 2010 09:03

Knuckles rapped ?

So we got a lecture about discussing this in any answers then someone from accounting web makes an official post on it a few days later ??

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07th Jun 2010 09:31


Thanks for your comment. A similar comment was made on the thread in question which was answered by John Stokdyk, the editor of AWEB. This is what he said:

"The points for and against this thread and the associated news story both have merit, but it was at my instigation that we followed up the Mail/Telegraph/BBC angle on the shooting...

When I finally had the background drawn to my attention, it was obvious that there was a point for considering the story as a topic for professional debate and consideration. The headline did not initially strike the right balance but has now been fixed".


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09th Jun 2010 17:41

HMRC precaution

I made a post at the time of the Oswestry "indebted man wipes out family" case(s), that HMRC might need to play things differently in the light of recent events.

Not saying that it was HMRC's fault, it does look as if the Cumbrian chap became opressed by the mere worry that "the tax were onto him".

However it can often be the case that once the true financial picture is 'out in the open' with respect to family and accountants - and HMRC - the debtor does not feel the suicidal pressure any more (OK, 'citation needed').

So this might suggest that some risk assessment, together with some impartial, independent (of HMRC etc.) and "without prejudice" family negotiation might be one way of helping in these situations.

Or not ?

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