Job Retention Bonus: Get the details right
Kate Upcraft explains the details of the job retention bonus as the law in the form of a Treasury direction has been published alongside HMRC guidance on the income threshold and examples. This scheme was cancelled on 5 November.
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Can I clarify something you've said please.
So any employer who furloughed an employee and continues to be employed upto 31st Jan but falls slightly short of £1560 across the three months will not be eligible to claim the bonus?
I note that £1560 over three months is an average monthly pay of £520 per month which is below any taxable threshold, so when you refer to taxable pay, your simply saying a payment that could in theory be taxable but may not have had tax stopped?
£520 per month could be taxable; the tax threshold is dependent on the individual's tax code.
Most depressing bit is that all RTI's have been submitted on time. I know I missed one of mine for some reason or other. As an agent with a fair few clients and the pressures of ever changing Furlough it is hardly a wonder that the odd one has slipped the net. And so we are punished despite having a near perfect compliance records since the introduction of RTI. As is the case with HMRC genuine mistakes are never allowable.
That was the bit I noticed as well
I have a few who often argue some change after giving us the pay details 'just in time'
Result is a couple of 1 or 2 day lates because they fail to respond to 'OK to submit'
Will at least now have the opportunity to get a bit more fierce on timely info and replies
I would think that an acceptable reason or a one-off delay would be understandable. And I would still attempt to submit the claim regardless and let HMRC come back to us whether they approve or not.
My position would be to still attempt the claim in good faith.
It's the RTI submissions for the qualifying months that count. No penalty for historic misses.
Everyone has ample time to ensure they hit those dates. And it's a fairly strong incentive for clients who are tardy.
Not according to this article which is word for word from the official HMRC wording is that the WHOLE of the 20/21 year must have been submitted on time. I can see no mention of just those three months.
I'm not sure if this is correct. Neither The Treasury Direction (para 5.1 and 5.2) nor the HMRC Guidance say that all RTI submissions since 6 April 2020 have to be on time.
Query how this impacts on maternity pay.
If someone is furloughed for the first time in September having previously received SMP will they qualify for this if they meet the 3 month pay criteria? Then conversely if someone goes on maternity leave in January 21 does the SMP counts towards taxable pay (otherwise not sufficient taxable pay) would they qualify for the bonus - even though they may not return afterwards? Both real situations so not hypothetical though in our case the employee will probably return to work.
Example 1 - yes they would count.
Example 2. - cant see why not. SMP is always treated as taxable pay. So cant see the difference. And as to whether they "intend" to return or not doesn't come into it here as you can't base things on "perhaps in the future". They may not return indeed but then any employee may decide to leave.
Example 2 - the difference being that the SMP will not have cost the employer anything as it will all be recovered - hence I thought they may exclude it.
I can see your thought process. I suppose all this is in the fine detail that will spill out from HMRC overvpages and pages in due course
So annually paid directors are not eligible? If they were paid £9,500 in April 2020 for 2020/21.
Yet again!!
I'm not sure retaining the director is what the retention bonus was really designed for though - if the director doesn't return then there is no employer (assuming they are an OMB).
Well you have assumed wrong. Directors are still employees and this was a genuine query.
Don't appreciate, or see the need for, your initial remark, but thanks all the same.
Well you have assumed wrong. Directors are still employees and this was a genuine query.
Don't appreciate, or see the need for, your initial remark, but thanks all the same.
Would be good to get clarification on this, given the sheer volume of OMBs who have received little/no support, where we've managed to get them in the CJRS scheme, albeit for a pittance, does anyone know if we can also claim the £1,000 bonus for these director clients ?
I guess the lack of response means no-one knows if directors are entitled to claim the bonus for themselves as employees of their own limited company...anyone??
It has been discussed before, with different opinions, I don't think there's been anything definitive yet.
Can I just clarify, the £1560 is the total amount over 3 months, so say £520 per month?
so if an employee goes on sick leave (not virus related) and is on SSP during that time, the employer could if neccessary top up their pay to £520 per month and still qualify?
Looks like it - but beware of varying the terms of an employment contract if all employees' contracts say they receive SSP and one is given more than that just to ensure the company receives the bonus.
Unless the employee either only receives around £520 per month, or is sick for the whole period though, it is a total over the three months so they don't have to receive £520 every month.
Apologises, if this is a patently obvious answer to the forum contributors but best to clarify than be mildly uncertain.
Each scheme is taken on own merit with regards to bonus eligibility, that is to say
CJRS - based on RTI's ending 31st October and NOT subject to minimum income threshold
JSS - based on 3 months November to January and IS subject to minimum income threshold (MIT)
Therefore, it is possible for the same employee to be furloughed (qualify for £1 bonus under CJRS) and in addition (subject to meeting MIT), can receive a subsequent £1k bonus - totaling £2k grant bonus across both schemes for the same employee.
Is that correct, or please stand me corrected?
Thank you
As I see it, the objective of the scheme is to keep people on the payroll. I have a couple of clients who engaged staff at the beginning of March and who therefore were ineligible for furlough. These employees are ineligible for this bonus as well - so yet again those particular employers seem to be being treated unfairly and the objective of the scheme partially fails.
Overall quite reasonable apart from the requirement to have filed every RTI on time during the Covid crisis- I expect a lot of appeals against HMRC decisions should that rule be applied strictly.
Also a bit of a shame on the TUPE arrangements which seem a little harsh (but sort of make sense I guess).
Now all we have to do is remember at the end of the busiest month of the year to ensure we claim or get all those that are due.
Neither The Treasury Direction (para 5.1 and 5.2) nor the HMRC Guidance say that all RTI submissions since 6 April 2020 have to be on time.