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MTD-VAT: Details start to emerge

19th Sep 2017
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The government has published proposals concerning the introduction of MTD-VAT. This new information outlines how it expects the new system to operate, including details of voluntary data businesses can submit to support their VAT returns and calculations. Matt Bailey, founder of Gbooks, looks at what we’ve learned from these new proposals.

The government has set out some proposed changes to legislation to regulate the new VAT-MTD system and to make it mandatory for certain businesses. The deadline for responses is 10 November, with the government aiming to have new regulations in place by next April.

The information available on MTD-VAT prior to last week was sparse, but what we knew was outlined in a previous article. So what fresh information can we glean from the new document?

When will the new rules come into force?

The new regulations will come into effect on 1 April 2019. So the businesses affected (i.e those registered for VAT with turnover above the VAT registration threshold) will be required to keep certain information in digital format from that date. They will also be required to submit any VAT returns starting on or after 1 April 2019 via the MTD system.

What information will businesses be required to keep in digital form?

Businesses will be required to keep their “designatory data”, information about supplies made and received, and details of the VAT account in digital format.

The designatory data is the business name, principal place of business and VAT registration number, plus details of membership of any VAT schemes.

The information about supplies will include details of individual sales and purchases, including relevant tax dates, splits between different VAT rates or treatments (i.e. standard rate, reduced rate etc), and a breakdown of invoices and the VAT rates charged.

The VAT account provides an audit trail between the primary data and the values in the VAT submission. It will include adjustments such as corrections from previous returns, changes in consideration and relief for bad debts. Only the totals for each item are required to be kept digitally.

What information do businesses need to submit to HMRC?

Businesses are only required to submit the same (nine-box) information contained on the current VAT return. The VAT return frequency will remain the same, and those submitting monthly or annual returns can continue to do so. The deadlines for submission and payment will remain unchanged, although the government may review this if and when quarterly reporting becomes mandatory.

Can businesses submit additional information?

Businesses will be able to submit two new pieces of voluntary information - periodic updates and supplementary data to support their VAT submissions.

Periodic updates are additional VAT submissions, covering say one or two months, that can be submitted between mandatory VAT returns. The chances of businesses wanting to do this are low as the rules stand now, although these submissions will be a way of notifying HMRC of changes in designatory data such as a new address. These voluntary submissions won’t create a VAT liability or refund, and the mandatory VAT submissions will still be required in the normal way.

Businesses can also submit supplementary data, on a voluntary basis, to support the calculations behind a VAT return. The government will set out more details in the legislation, but it envisages this data being the relevant items from the VAT account (see above).

What about businesses below the VAT threshold?

Businesses with turnover below the VAT threshold can opt into MTD, and then opt back out again later. In both cases they will need to inform HMRC in writing.

What happens if turnover rises above the VAT threshold?

Under the current proposals, businesses under the threshold must monitor their income (i.e. the rolling total for the previous 12 months) and will remain outside the MTD requirements in say, March, if income was below the threshold in the twelve months to the end of February. Once a business is mandated to use MTD it cannot drop out again, even where turnover falls back below the registration threshold.

So do we need to press for any changes?

While many accountants have objections to MTD in general, there are some specific areas of the government’s proposals that raise concerns.

One is what happens when a business breaches the registration threshold part way through a VAT period? The digital record keeping requirements seem to start immediately, and the current VAT return (some of which would cover the period before MTD became mandatory) may also need to be submitted using MTD software. This could force the business to change software overnight, and possibly copy data from the old system to the new.

Another concern is a lack of clarity on what software businesses can or will be required to use. The condoc says a business caught by the new requirements must use “a software program or set of compatible software programs which can connect to HMRC systems via an Application Programming Interface (API)”. Would using a spreadsheet to maintain the records, and then manually typing the nine VAT values into the HMRC portal, be considered a “set of compatible software programs” meeting this requirement?

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By davidakime
23rd Sep 2017 11:01

Why can't the accountancy profession accept that change is on its way and embrace it and help make life easier for everyone.

Remember when it was announced that all VAT returns had to be submitted online and the backlash from the accountants, you would have thought that the world was about to end - now imagine life without it?

Paper tax returns was another - imagine going back to manually filling in a return, posting it, trusting the Royal Mail to get it there on time and then waiting for the acceptance to eventually arrive.

No one (except accountants) went into business to do bookkeeping so we as an industry should be encouraging business owners to use the benefits of software and as a by-product being that they are automatically MTD compliant.

I, for one, would sooner make my clients life easier as opposed to advising them to use a spreadsheet because I liked it.

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By david wilks
27th Sep 2017 19:57

You know, the striving by HMRC to go down the MTD route is, to me, somewhat similar to the drive by government to try to get us to instal smart meters. The spin is that the installation of these things will, by letting us know how much energy we are using, cause us to think twice about putting the kettle on to make a cup of tea. What arrant nonsense. If I had such a thing I would just not look at it whilst making a brew.
The same with MTD. Yet another desire to go digital. It really is not and cannot be the answer to anything. Nevermind the vulnerability to hacking and hacking there will be trust me (or the potential hackers). Please, please give it up you people with little or no commonsense. Stick to the current system that, believe it or not, works just fine.

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By Simple Accounting
30th Sep 2017 11:01

Hi all,
does anyone know where the draft consultation is actually located on the website? I cannot trace it. I cannot trace an address to direct a consultation response. I am told that my response has to be in by 10 November ... but where do I send it?!

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